@VBruttel @carmenpaun >250 virologists Unlike you I actually post the sources of screenshots Strongest supporting evidence for Zoonotic https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t.co/8wQaPFbJzc
@EMM_386 @ban_epp_gofroc @_everythingism @yoshkapundrick @stuartjdneil @EMM_386 Wrong It was a quote from a new article But take 10 minutes to learn that GOF is not always GOFOC In fact it is almost always not OC @ban_epp_gofroc once again lying about
@VBruttel @carmenpaun Oh yes Calling the >250 virologists/scientists who signed this recent letter Dishonest A statement for zoonotic origins Coming from @VBruttel who has lied openly for the past few years that is quite hilarious https://t.co/UVh
@nameandnumber79 @simon_gordon_ @ban_epp_gofroc @PhilippMarkolin @past_is_future @reluctantlyjoe @_everythingism @PeterHotez @Ayjchan How about a letter published in a scientific journal signed by over 200 virologists https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t.co
@ban_epp_gofroc @ZooNaughty @sylvio_si Anyway, I'll leave you keep ranting about how scientists are part of a plot, that Congressional investigations will uncover it, etc. Same script, different decade. https://t.co/0SVXxn3XXF https://t.co/X4fwYPEdxj ht
@ZooNaughty @ban_epp_gofroc @sylvio_si @PhilippMarkolin Sticking expletives in what you say doesn't make you sound anymore clever or informed. Already covered why a consensus sequence would be made, + why doing that for known backbones in DEFUSE doesn't g
@AndyMLinn @_everythingism @ban_epp_gofroc @past_is_future You have nothing of value to tell me on pathogen/outbreak origins, anymore than you have something of value to tell me on ivermectin. I'm going to stick to informed experts competently evaluating
@EsgProfessor @emilyakopp @Rebecca21951651 @NewsfromScience @sciencecohen @jocelynkaiser @NYTScience @ScienceNews @julianbarnes @SherylNYT Who has been caught exactly?
@VaughnMises @emilyakopp @Rebecca21951651 @NewsfromScience @sciencecohen @jocelynkaiser @NYTScience @ScienceNews @julianbarnes @SherylNYT Yes >250 virologists on attached letter across continents The overwhelming amount of actual subject matter exper
@Jeff_Browndyke @GYamey Would you just reject evidence out-of-hand, likely with some conspiracy theories about imaginary COIs? https://t.co/Y2PhtD4Hgs https://t.co/UFy44iHLBv https://t.co/e8iO9xDIE2 https://t.co/G2aaceoN9N
@VaughnMises @JamieMetzl Hey I’m not the one that doesn’t understand statistics Here’s more evidence >250 virologists signed this letter https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t.co/uUfU4dp9Ff
@AXXA13365950 @fr_brennan gain of function research isn't as narrow and specific as many believe it to be and further, it has opened new doors in cancer treatment and provided insights that are helpful in preventing pandemics early on before they jump spec
@AndyMLinn @phorthbeing You're not going to deflect from the topic of what you're doing: Engaging in baseless conspiracism about experts' private messages so you can evade what the published evidence shows. https://t.co/XPBq0vscHj https://t.co/UFy44iHLBv
@Ticklicker56 @ChrisShaver64 @gtuckerkellogg Experts are named. You should come to terms with the fact that folks with experience reasoning about zoonosis for pathogens like ebolavirus can see through what you're doing. 🤷♂️ https://t.co/6ptBwJfzLK [http
@ChrisShaver64 @_everythingism @AtomsksSanakan @gtuckerkellogg We maybe splitting hairs but GoF is a spectrum NIH funding ban considers pathogens that can infect humans are given function ‘gain’ The WIV experiments used viruses that couldn’t infect huma
@joshlbrooks @_everythingism @Science54900201 @YouseFancyPants @Villager1244 @tgof137 "when defenders of one conspiracy theory find it necessary to implicate more and more people whose failure to discover or reveal the conspiracy can only be explained by t
@Ayjchan No poll of a small group of people on an uncertain topic like this is ever going to be perfect. Still, there are other data points suggesting natural origin is indeed a widely held view. https://t.co/cIl8BTLbao
@NateSilver538 @SethBurn @TheZvi "[cascade logic occurs] when defenders of one conspiracy theory find it necessary to implicate more and more people whose failure to discover or reveal the conspiracy can only be explained by their alleged complicity" https
@PlancksLaw @past_is_future @JonahMessinger It's not the hard for folks like Jacobs to distinguish between virologists with expertise + competence in this field, vs. a bunch of non-expert conspiracists who've peddled failed claim after failed claim. And s
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 34/ "[cascade logic is] when defenders of one conspiracy theory find it necessary to implicate more and more people" h…
34/ "[cascade logic is] when defenders of one conspiracy theory find it necessary to implicate more and more people" https://t.co/QhFdEPmBKe https://t.co/Vm6fOSykFK https://t.co/UFy44iHLBv https://t.co/dsYHvTkNBw https://t.co/IGeHjC7mT5 https://t.co/LS
@MdmStakeholder @DrJBhattacharya Read this It puts things in perspective https://t.co/UVhL9oe436
@VaughnMises @JamieMetzl I have no idea the politics of pro zoonotic scientists Handful? Most anyone with actual subject matter expertise is zoonotic Twitter U Phds or clearly lacking scientific knowledge in this area is Lab Leak right wing extremists
@JamieMetzl the significantly majority of virologists will change their positions? (for example >250 supporting zoonotic origin and it wasn’t the ones you speak of) Why? Biased reporting from right wing think tanks Incorrect & misleading unscientif
RT @_everythingism: @NateSilver538 @JoshGellers "There's no information on what the scientific community believes" https://t.co/ngADEXOnKC
RT @dkupiecki: @Sander_vdLinden @PeterHotez @EricTopol @stuartjdneil @MichaelWorobey @angie_rasmussen @adamjkucharski >250 virologists sign…
@VaughnMises @kellywind @MJnanostretch @Graybea71861266 @levine2001 @Chris__Sage @Engineer2The Sorry You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about Using tools like BAC isnt risky Look at table 2 here Want all that to go away? People to die that w
@kellywind @levine2001 @Chris__Sage @Engineer2The @MJnanostretch It’s literally saying pigs fly and Im being a jerk for not believing it Sorry for being fact based I trust the experts > 250 virologists supporting 👇 https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t
@thomas_stearns @JoshGellers @ChristiaanPtr Lay people's view is irrelevant when there's so much bad reporting and confusing info. Biological experts aren't split 50/50. https://t.co/ngADEXOnKC
@jonatanpallesen @NateSilver538 People who actually study viruses seem to lean strongly towards the zoonotic origin. Is that data we should look at? https://t.co/ngADEXOnKC
@TMLutas @alloy2077 @NateSilver538 @JoshGellers What about a different community? Hundreds of virologists recently signed this letter, saying that while we should keep an open mind, the lab leak theory just doesn't have the evidence. https://t.co/TgvFKNTH
RT @dkupiecki: @Sander_vdLinden @PeterHotez @EricTopol @stuartjdneil @MichaelWorobey @angie_rasmussen @adamjkucharski >250 virologists sign…
@NateSilver538 @JoshGellers "There's no information on what the scientific community believes" https://t.co/ngADEXOnKC
@RuxandraTeslo @Sander_vdLinden >250 experts on record disagree 👇
@RuxandraTeslo @NateSilver538 2 scenarios for lab leak 1) engineered virus leaked (0% Chance ; all facts show non engineered virus) 2) natural virus was escaped research spillover (possible but improbable) >250 virologists signed Journal of virology l
@gdemaneuf @Sander_vdLinden @PeterHotez @EricTopol @stuartjdneil @MichaelWorobey @angie_rasmussen @adamjkucharski You can read Giles’ blog (not even close to a scientific subject matter expert on viruses/epidemiology) full of out of context screenshots an
@Sander_vdLinden @PeterHotez @EricTopol @stuartjdneil @MichaelWorobey @angie_rasmussen @adamjkucharski >250 virologists signed this recently published letter in Journal of Virology https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t.co/G761d5y6NR
@gorskon @NateSilver538 The science consensus is that a zoonotic outbreak has more evidence than a lab leak, making lab leak less likely. That pushes lab leak claims into being a conspiracy theory. https://t.co/K8aOF8D0V1 https://t.co/Y2PhtD4Hgs https:/
@BiophysicsFL You don’t admit there are differences ? This letter gives a good description on the definitions by several organizations https://t.co/UVhL9oe436
RT @MJnanostretch: Each of these two more recent Virology commentaries on (1) origin and (2) biosafety/biosecurity oversight expose a large…
@JamieMetzl As someone who had promoted proven lies and misinformation on this topic including the fabricated story of “3 sick workers “ it is obvious you don’t understand evidence >250 subject matter experts (which you aren’t) disagree with you htt
Each of these two more recent Virology commentaries on (1) origin and (2) biosafety/biosecurity oversight expose a large cultural blindspot. https://t.co/wnFRSWMd3Y https://t.co/0XyKZsumAJ 1- Origin: Authors show their true colors when stating matter-of-f
@MonaRahalkar Or the other reason is the actual evidence and data support zoonoses Shocking huh ? https://t.co/UVhL9oeBSE https://t.co/WR7m3s3gyp
@VillanuevaPM It’s not a small group >250 virologists and actual subject matter experts say zoonotic strongly the likely scenario Yet wannabes like Alex and yourself keep up with the misinformation I have the full context You have screenshots http
@VeritasVincit5 @stuartjdneil @PrometheusCHT @R_H_Ebright I don’t disagree a plumber who has been on enough construction jobs knows a bit ab drywall; I’m still getting an expert to set & mud walls This isn’t just a small group of “zoonoti” as claim
Not that lab leak conspiracists are any more rationally persuadable than HIV conspiracists. Different pandemic. Same non-expert baseless paranoia. https://t.co/h7wuiekLYi [https://t.co/e8iO9xDIE2] https://t.co/liqIHmSLr5 [https://t.co/K8aOF8D0V1] https
@LongDesertTrain @ryangrim Correct This letter was signed by >150 virologists (experts) An accompanying letter in support signed by another >100 https://t.co/UVhL9oe436 https://t.co/YNa8nI2cHO
@OdysseyBohemian @Muller_Lab @natashaloder @edwardcholmes @GYamey @emilyakopp All these researchers (incl the ones commonly attacked reckless) support biosafety There is a huge problem in a side of the conversation that uses misinformation & unscient
@gdemaneuf @chrismartenson Giles( I’ve shown is a serial liar& scientifically ignorant) cites his blog full of out of context screenshots & quotes experts (inc J Bloom) say the zoonotic origin is far most likely even if a lab origin is possible 💯s
@harishseshadri2 Another 156 virologists here against you and your propaganda Getting it yet? https://t.co/QZvv29f0R0
@Sijwill @Chris__Sage @R_H_Ebright Probably exactly how you were behaving when people told you wrong about ivermectin. So confident you knew better than experts on that, yet so wrong... https://t.co/173oqokGcO "currently the zoonosis hypothesis has the
RT @JVirology: "Virology under the Microscope—a Call for Rational Discourse": new open access Commentary co-published in @asmicrobiology jo…
@Anonymousholz @VanGennepD @zhihuachen @K_G_Andersen @flodebarre https://t.co/K8aOF8D0V1 If you move to intelligence agencies then: 5 out of 9 USA intelligence community entities say natural zoonosis is more likely, 2 say lab leak is more likely, + 2 are
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
RT @R_H_Ebright: As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion mem…
As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion members of the global public: https://t.co/psvBY2UhOH
RT @R_H_Ebright: @Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 bi…
@Ayjchan As do 156 others who valorize their personal and career interests over the lives, health, and interests of 7.9 billion members of the global public: https://t.co/psvBY2UhOH
Scientists have pushed back against ill advised policies and inflammatory rhetoric, conspiracies, not to mention sham congressional hearings... this is important even though time consuming and endless. https://t.co/6NzKTuQGp2
Were no expert virologists consulted? Those who actually work in containment and know the ins & outs of actually working with these pathogens? https://t.co/BiWpe4SIw1
@StevenSalzberg1 @thackerpd @T_Inglesby Some of those virologists are your colleagues, who would probably appreciate you reading the article and engaging in respectful discourse. https://t.co/6NzKTuReeA
3/3: dengue virus-resistant mosquitoes, improved insect control, plants with reduced need for fertilizers, ... A partial list in Table 2. https://t.co/VCjTNvo0OO
For an extensive list of GoF experiments that have proven useful, check out Table 2 of this recent Commentary in the Journal of Virology. (end) https://t.co/cQ99a31XnQ
RT @DrAliSKhan: A small but vocal group of individuals have conflated legitimate questions about safely conducting virus-related research…
A small but vocal group of individuals have conflated legitimate questions about safely conducting virus-related research with uncertainties over the origins of SARS-CoV-2 for political gain. Here is a balanced, evidence-based discourse by virologists. ht
RT @AusVirologySoc: Like virologists everywhere, we have worked with scientist and clinician colleagues worldwide to develop knowledge, tes…
Like virologists everywhere, we have worked with scientist and clinician colleagues worldwide to develop knowledge, tests, and interventions which collectively have reduced the number of deaths due to COVID-19 and curtailed its economic impact. 2/7 https:/
@PhilippMarkolin @StevenSalzberg1 @Forbes writes: "virology community continues to insist that any limits on GOF are unnecessary" Then links to an article that describes oversight of GOF experiments. https://t.co/winc2FKhij 😩 https://t.co/0zmVuRv06d
@g_rockets you base all your opinion on hearsay at this point. I believe that there was more evidence openly and transparently piled up for the likes of the oil industry, wasn't there? Also: https://t.co/Ol5F4c7BUT
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@d_a_swafford @FaceTheNation @ScottGottliebMD Virologists might disagree - it is easy to argue for more oversight based on a premise of lab leak - even when there is no evidence. https://t.co/njTma6NC7U
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RT @INT_LEONALBA: UNETHICAL & CORRUPTED... All they declared a conflict of interest! 156 virologists assert that gain-of-function research…